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The Duplication glitch does not work for items. I have tried many times. I will give you a list of all the places you can find Grand Soul Gems at so don't worry you'll have plenty of choices to choose from as to where you want to obtain them. GRAND SOUL GEMS: Anvil, Mages Guild, Felan Relas sells one. Bravil, Mages Guid, Ardaline sells one. To use the console and type any of the given Oblivion PC item codes you need to press the tilde key ; now type ‘player.additem’ followed by a code and the number of items you would like. Ultimately, it may look like this: player.additem 0009844B 1. Here are the codes for some soul gems.

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A Black Soul Gem

Black Soul Gems are magical items from the Necromancy school. Unlike regular Soul Gems, Black Soul Gems can be used to trap the souls of humanoid races, such as Imperials, Nords, Bretons, Redguards, Orcs, High Elves, Wood Elves, Dark Elves, Argonians, Khajiit and Dremora. General information about using Soul Gems is provided on the Soul Gem, Soul Trap, and Enchanting articles.

The rituals necessary to create Black Soul Gems are revealed during the Mages Guild quest Necromancer's Moon, however it is not necessary to do any of the Mages Guild storyline to create Black Soul Gems.

  • 1Creating Black Soul Gems

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Creating Black Soul Gems[edit]

Items and Capabilities Required[edit]

  • One or more Grand Soul Gems (empty soul gems are best, but gems you have filled yourself can be used, see notes)
  • A method of casting the Soul Trap effect, which requires a minimum of level 25 Mysticism (enchanted weapons will not work)

The Procedure[edit]

  1. First, head to one of these locations: Dark Fissure (east from the shrine of Vaermina), Fort Istirus (east of Kvatch), Fort Linchal (northeast of Kvatch), or Wendelbek (at the headwaters of the Panther River). Outside each of these locations, you will find a white altar draped in a red cloth.
  2. Wait for the correct day, namely the Shade of the Revenant (see below for details).
    • If there is no light there when you arrive, you can use the wait command to wait 24 hours at a time. Or you can calculate when the next Shade of the Revenant will occur, go complete other quests, then return on the correct date.
    • When waiting for the purple light, do not stand directly in front of the altar; back up so you can see the altar and a fair portion of sky. The purple light is very soft by the time it gets to the altar, and if you are standing directly in front of it you may not realize it is shining and wait right past it. Also, doing this at night will help.
  3. Once the light is shining on the altar, place one or more Grand Soul Gems in the altar (it's a container like a chest).
  4. Cast a Soul Trap spell on the altar. When you open the altar again, one grand soul gem is now an empty black one.
  5. Repeat step #4 for as many spare grand soul gems as you have. Only one will be transformed for each Soul Trap spell, but you can cast one spell after another.

Shade of the Revenant[edit]

The Shade of the Revenant being used to create Black Soul Gems

Black Soul Gems can only be created during the 'Shade of the Revenant.' As part of this phenomenon, a purple light shines down from the sky on each of the four Necromancer Altars.

Each Shade of the Revenant starts at midnight and lasts for 24 hours, until the end of that day at midnight (although the Shade may not actually be visible during daylight hours). The Shade of the Revenant occurs on the same day at all four locations. It happens every eight days, starting from the first day of the game (i.e., the day on which Uriel Septim enters your cell in the Tutorial). The dates during the first three months of gameplay (all in year 3E433) are listed below;

Days PassedCalendar Date
1Last Seed 27
9Heartfire 4
17Heartfire 12
25Heartfire 20
33Heartfire 28
41Frostfall 6
49Frostfall 14
57Frostfall 22
65Frostfall 30
73Sun's Dusk 7
81Sun's Dusk 15
89Sun's Dusk 23


Walkthrough

If you continue playing past the last date shown on this table, the Shade will continue to occur every eight days. To determine when the next shade will occur, look at the number of days passed and see if it is a multiple of 8. If it is, then the next day will be a shade day.

When you are in jail the count of days will freeze and resume only when you are released. So if you have been in jail for more than a day, to calculate the shade days use the same procedure but add the number of days you've been in jail for the full day (not the same as 'Days Jailed') to the days that have passed since the beginning of the game. In other words, if you are arrested and spend an hour in jail it counts as a 'Day Jailed' but the count for Shade of the Revenant doesn't freeze.

Notes[edit]

  • Console codes for all types of Black Soul Gems can be found here.
  • During the Necromancer's Moon quest, you will be sent to Dark Fissure specifically. At 12am on the night of the Shade of the Revenant, a Worm Anchorite will emerge from the cave behind the altar to create a Black Soul Gem. Afterwards, you can steal his new Black Soul Gem from inside the altar, and use it to trap his soul.
  • Starting at level 5 there is a 10% chance that any Necromancer Adept (necromancer boss) will be carrying a Black Soul Gem in their inventory. A list of locations containing Necromancer Adepts is provided at Necromancer Dungeons. The Necromancers in Howling Cave for Meridia's Daedric quest also have a 10% chance of carrying Black Soul Gems.
  • Black Soul Gems can also hold non-NPC souls, so be careful when fighting normal creatures while you have empty black soul gems.
  • Any Grand Soul Gem already containing a soul (of any type) can also be converted, but it must be one that you have filled yourself.
    • In other words, if you find or purchase a Grand Soul Gem with a soul in it, it won't work. But if you start with an empty Grand Soul Gem then fill it with a soul, it will work.
    • Any Grand Soul Gem that you have filled yourself (i.e., any one that will work) will have a value of 200 gold (see Soul Gems).
  • A Grand Soul Gem will lose its stolen flag when turned into a Black Soul Gem.
  • At earlier levels Black Soul Gems are the easiest way to enchant powerful items as you will not be encountering any creatures with Grand Souls until much later on, and Black Soul Gems are much more powerful than the early Sigil Stones you can acquire (they have less overall charge but the effects can be much more powerful). There will be many opportunities to capture the soul of an NPC, especially bandits, highwaymen, and all the Necromancers you must kill during the Mages Guild quests that occur after Necromancer's Moon.
  • Dremora, Golden Saints, and Dark Seducers are considered NPCs; they can be useful for filling up Black Soul Gems if you can summon them.
  • When a non-NPC soul is trapped into a gem, the game engine will prefer to put it into a normal gem before filling a black soul gem. However, the game will fill the black soul gem with a soul before filling Azura's Star.
  • The quest-specific 'Black Soul Gems' needed for the Cheydinhal Recommendation quest are not truly Black Soul Gems: they cannot be used to trap NPC souls. Furthermore, using these soul gems is not recommended (see the quest bugs).

Bugs[edit]

  • A glitch exists which allows you to create multiple Black Soul Gems from the same Grand Soul Gem. If you place at least three (Some say two) filled Grand Soul Gems grouped on the same inventory line into the altar and cast the Soul Trap spell, all three will still be present along with the Black Soul Gem when you open the container. You can repeat this process, but all the gems must be removed and returned to the altar each time, or the entire group of Grand Soul Gems will disappear once you have cast an equal number of soul trap spells as there are gems in the group.
    • This bug is fixed by the Unofficial Oblivion Patch.
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Grand, Greater, Common, Lesser, and Petty soul gems: all except Petty share the same model.

Soul Gems are miscellaneous items which can be used to trap the soul of a dying creature or NPC. The resulting filled soul gems can be used as power sources for enchanted items, either when initially creating custom enchanted items or when recharging depleted enchanted weapons, either of which will consume the soul gem. In addition to the soul gems listed here, the Shivering Isles expansion adds a Soul Tomato that can be used as the equivalent of a grand soul gem.

They can be bought at most magical and alchemical shops.

  • 1Types of Soul Gem
  • 2Locations

Types of Soul Gem[edit]

NameSoulIDCapacityNotes
Petty Soul GemEmpty
Petty
00023D67
000382D1
0.110
40
150Smallest size of soul gems.
Lesser Soul GemEmpty
Petty
Lesser
00023D69
000382D2
000382D3
0.225
40
80
300Second smallest size of soul gems.
One Lesser Soul Gem is required for Sheogorath's Daedric quest.
Common Soul GemEmpty
Petty
Lesser
Common
00015B8B
000382D4
000382D5
000382D6
0.350
40
80
150
800Middle size of soul gems.
Greater Soul GemEmpty
Petty
Lesser
Common
Greater
00015B8C
000382D7
000382D8
000382D9
000382DA
0.4100
40
80
150
350
1200Second largest size of soul gems.
Grand Soul GemEmpty
Petty
Lesser
Common
Greater
Grand
00015B8E
000382DB
000382DC
000382DD
000382DE
000382DF
0.5200
40
80
150
350
500
1600Largest size of soul gems.
Five empty Grand Soul Gems are required for the Vampire Cure quest.
Black Soul GemEmpty
Grand
Empty
Empty
00000192
000382E0
0003C7FC
0001EC14
0.5
0.5
0
0.5
500
1200
0
500
1600Special soul gems that can capture NPC souls as well as creatures; see Black Soul Gems for details.
  • The third variety listed (ID 0003C7FC) is a quest-specific variety used during the Cheydinhal Recommendation, and is actually a standard Grand Soul Gem (it cannot be used to trap NPC souls). Using these quest-specific soul gems is not recommended (see the quest bugs).
  • The fourth variety listed (ID 0001EC14) is never found in game, and cannot be used if added through the console.

Note: These IDs and values are set at the time you acquire a soul gem, and do not get changed when you fill the soul gem with a soul. In other words, if you pick up an empty grand soul gem, its value will be 200 gold. That value does not change when you fill it. Therefore, you can end up with grand soul gems containing grand souls with two different values, both 200 gold and 500 gold.

Black Soul Gems[edit]

Regular Soul Gems can only trap creatures, not NPCs (note that some creatures, like Dremora, are actually classed as NPCs). Necromancy has researched the rituals necessary to create Black Soul Gems that are capable of trapping the souls of NPCs. The details of those rituals are described on the page describing Black Soul Gems.

Once you have a filled Black Soul Gem, it is used exactly like a regular Soul Gem. A Black Soul Gem can hold as much as a Grand Soul Gem (1600), but it is much easier to fill since any humanoid is 1600 units.

Azura's Star[edit]

Grand

Azura's Star is essentially the most powerful Soul Gem in the game, and can be obtained by completing Azura's Daedric Quest. Its quality is the same as a Grand Soul Gem; however, it has infinite uses and it is not used up after enchanting or recharging. It cannot be turned into a Black Soul Gem, and thus cannot hold NPC souls. See the page on Azura's Star for more details.

Locations[edit]

These are the only guaranteed locations of empty soul gems. Any others come from random lists.

Gems

Petty[edit]

  • Things Found (× 6) SI
  • Arcane University Chironasium (× 5)
  • Leyawiin Mages Guild 2nd Floor West (× 4)
  • Barren Mine (× 3)
  • Mystic Emporium (× 3)
  • Beldaburo Anga (× 2)
  • Belda Lor (× 2)
  • Bravil Mages Guild (× 2)
  • Cheydinhal Mages Guild (× 2)
  • Chorrol Mages Guild Living Quarters (× 2)
  • Lazare Milvan's House (× 2)
  • Lost Boy Cavern, Hidden Bastion (× 3)
  • Skingrad Mages Guild (× 2)
  • Anvil Mages Guild Library
  • Bruma Mages Guild (Destroyed)
  • Ceyatatar Gorihame
  • Chorrol Mage's Guild Library
  • Fort Cuptor Battlemains
  • Frostcrag Spire, Living Area
  • Frostcrag Spire, Main Level
  • Hame Wendesel
  • Henantier's House
  • Lake Arrius Caverns, Shrine Living Quarters
  • Skingrad Mages Guild, Living Quarters
  • Southern Books, 2nd floor
  • Wendelbek Aldmerisel
  • Wendelbek Sel Aran Mathmedli
  • Wendelbek Silaseli

Lesser[edit]

  • Chorrol Mages Guild (× 3)
  • Leyawiin Mages Guild 2nd Floor West (× 3)
  • Lost Boy Cavern, Hidden Bastion (× 3)
  • Anvil Mages Guild (× 2)
  • Beldaburo (× 2)
  • Beldaburo Anga (× 2)
  • Belda Lor (× 2)
  • Castle Bruma Great Hall (× 2)
  • Cheydinhal Mages Guild (× 2)
  • Fort Carmala (× 2)
  • Fort Cuptor Battlemains (× 2)
  • Skingrad Mages Guild Living Quarters (× 2)
  • Arcane University, Council Chambers
  • Arcane University, Lustratorium
  • Anvil Mages Guild Library
  • Bruma Mages Guild (Destroyed)
  • Ceyatatar Gorihame
  • Chorrol Mage's Guild Library
  • Eugal Belette's Basement
  • Frostcrag Spire, Main Level
  • Frostcrag Spire, Living Area
  • Lake Arrius Caverns, Shrine Living Quarters
  • Wendelbek Aldmerisel
  • Wendelbek Sel Aran Mathmedli
  • Wendelbek Silaseli
  • Worm Anchorite §

Where To Find Empty Grand Soul Gems Oblivion

Common[edit]

  • Arcane University Chironasium (× 6)
  • Arcane University Mystic Archives Upstairs (× 4)
  • Arcane University Chironasium Upstairs (× 3)
  • Cann, Halls of TranquilitySI
  • Chorrol Mages Guild (× 2)
  • Fort Chalman Exterior
  • J'bari's House 2nd Floor West
  • Shivering:Jastira Nanus (Mania)'s HouseSI
  • Mahei's House 2nd Floor West

Greater[edit]

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  • Urul gro-Agamph's House (× 2)

Grand[edit]

  • Chorrol Mages Guild (× 2)
  • Arcane University, Arch-Mage's Lobby
  • Arcane University, Mage's Quarters
  • Crayfish Cave, Steep †
  • Drakelowe, Basement
  • Nornal Ageasel †
  • Squandered Mine Wind Holes †
  • Angalmo §
  • Felen Relas §
  • Ardaline §
  • Selena Orania §
  • Eilonwy §
  • Alves Uvenim §
  • Calindil §

Skyrim Grand Soul Gem Locations

† These soul gems are only accessible during the Vampire Cure quest.
§ Carried by an NPC

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